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Welcome to the Chazzanut Online Forum.
If you have anything to comment on this site, or any questions regarding
Jewish Liturgical Music in general, feel free to
add your message below.
Irwin Oppenheim
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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:56:58 +0200
From: Benjamin Muller
Dear Irwin,
I have visited your site and I am thrilled with it. Tavo Olecha Bracha.
If I can be of any help I will gladly contribute.
Obviously I will link it with my site.
All The Best
Benjamin Muller
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 23:36:49 +0200
From: Shmuel Barzilai
Thank you for the very interesting hompage. I would like to buy the book
of cantor Abraham Katz.
Best regards
Shmuel Barzilai
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:48:01 -0500
From: Jordan Lee Wagner
Spectacular! I just sent an e-mail to the entire Zamir Chorale of
Boston about it. Hope it gets you some attention. Loved your links too;
especially the Josh Horowitz article. Thanks.
--- Jordan
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 16:30:43 -0400
From: Jordan Wosnick
Hi Irwin,
Just had a chance to have a more complete perusal of your site. It looks
great, there's a LOT of material in there, I'm going to have to sit down
with some of the nussachim and see if I can learn them enough to use
them when I am ba'al-shacharit.
Congratulations on the great site
Jordan
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 21:21:32 +0200
From: Michel Heymann
Cher Irwin,
Je suis allé sur ton site qui est très intéressant! Je te félicite pour le fabuleux travail de recherche que tu effectues.
Merci de m'avoir écrit car je vais faire connaître ton site à l'ensemble des membres l'association européenne des ministres officiants.
Pour répondre à ta question, je n'ai rien à voir avoir le hazan heymann que tu sites. Il faut savoir que le nom Heymann est très répandu dans l'Est de la France.
Je te souhaite CHANA TOVA et beaucoup de succès dans ce que tu entreprends
Michel Heymann
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:36:54 -0500
From: "Wolff, Cantor Josee"
I was so pleased to see the mention of Katz's manuscript. For my
graduate thesis at Hebrew Union College in New York I did some research
on Dutch/Amsterdam chazanut and His manuscript was one of the many I
looked at, at the Rosenthaliana in Amsterdam. It is good to know that
this music is not lost and much of it certainly deserves to be known and
to be performed.
The other booklet you mention on the website is indeed an invaluable
source of information on Amsterdam synagogue melodies and usage, a true
treasure trove of information!
Date: 2002-03-06 17:36:35 PST
From: Charles Vitez
Thank you very much for such an interesting website. It would be great
if you could get someone to translate the newspaper articles into
English.
I was particularly interested in Chazan Berlijn's book on nigunei
kohanim. Unfortunately I cannot really read music, but your midi files
were a great help.
The only tune that I actually recognised was the one called "shacharit
shel yomin noraim" (page 7) apart from the first few bars (which in
any case do not seem to blend well and are probably just a fancy bit of
chazanus added possibly because he realised that this chant was too
short as it stood) it is much like the tune that my late father taught
me and which he learned in the synagogues of Budapest almost 90 years
ago.
The difference is that the way I know it the first set of ascending bars
are repeated and the final bar holds on some more and finally ascends
before repeating "ve-yishmerecho", "vichunecho" and "sholaym".
The timing here is essential because the congregation has to have
sufficient time to recite the prayer "ribaynay shel aylom", complete it
before the words themselves are uttered by the kohen and then be ready
with the response.
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:04:52 +0300
From: "Hinker, Chani"
Dear Irwin,
thank you for the information, I already changed the URL and added your
description of your site which looks really wonderful now and has a
"wow" content.
Regards
Chani
Dr. Chani Hinker
German Website Editor
JAFI - Pedagogic Center
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:14:09 -0600
From: Fred Blumenthal
Congratulations on your inclusion of the Heymann Psalms onto your web
site!
The e-mail announcing them was an occasion for me to revisit your site,
and there were several things I hadn't seen before, plus several things
I'd like to go back to in order to study more.
But the Heymann psalm settings are particularly interesting for those of
us who love choral music, and especially men's chorus music. In the
U.S. the setting of psalm 150 for mixed voices by Lewandowski is very
popular in Jewish choral music circles, but Heymann's setting is even
grander!
You should be thanked for all you're doing for the cause of Jewish
music!!
Fred Blumenthal
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:57:55 -0700
From: Yaron Zilberman
Dear Irwin,
I am interested in any material you have on Cantor Yoselle Rosenblatt.
Any future sell or information of Yossele material, please let me know.
I am conducting a research about him and his music.
Many thanks (you are doing an important job),
Yaron
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:56:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Inna Barmash
Irwin,
Thank you so much for putting this together! It also looks like we have
a few things in common - I finished a degree in computer science at
Princeton last year, and I serve as a chazzanit during the high holidays
for the Princeton community. I'll definitely have to stop by if I'm in
Amsterdam.
Best,
Inna Barmash
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 11:05:45 +0100
From: Ken Gould
Dear Mr. Oppenheim,
Thank you very much for your hard work and time investment in putting
these resources online. I have browsed them all with great interest. Do
keep me posted about any further resources as they are newly posted.
Many thanks/met vriendelijke groeten,
Ken Gould
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:53:29 -0000
From: Jewish Music Distribution
Dear Irwin
I have just seen your web site for the first time and I am very
impressed. It gives one so much important information.
Noa Lachman
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 01:04:09 EDT
From: Prof. R. Levy
Thanks very much for this wonderful information. I thoroughly enjoyed
looking at all the wonderful music described.
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 05:00:54 -0400
From: Elliot Katz
Thank you so much!
I have been the baal tefilla for Mussaf for Yomim Noraim for many years
for a small minyan in our neighborhood.
When I first started, I asked a friend if he had any "nusach" tapes. He
had a tape of some selections from Chazzan Bloemendal. The tape was not
of good recording quality, but even so, I was enchanted by the sweetness
and power of his voice, and the beauty of his niggunim. I still use his
Nesaneh Tokef and the nusach he uses for the end of Malchuyos.
Again, many thanks.
Eliyahu Katz
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:49:45 +0000
From: Victor Tunkel
Dear Irwin
I have now printed out your Amsterdam Shney Zeytim tune. It is of course
quite different from the tune that was the precursor of the German Maoz
Tsur. And I can't see any resemblance to the Marcello either. I would
think it a 19th century composition?
As to Katz, I have looked through his oeuvre on the screen with much
interest. I was going to print it all out but I was wondering if you could
sell me a photocopy of the manuscript? I would very much like to add it to
my collection. I have what is possibly the largest collection of Jewish
music and musicology (printed and manuscript) in private hands. I make it
available to researchers and inquirers. I try to make it as comprehensive
as possible. (I can send you a copy of my list if you would like.)
I can probably get a reasonable print-out from your website but a direct
photocopy would be better.
Yours,
Victor Tunkel
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:20:07 +0100
From: Barry J. Mehler
Irwin,
I just took a look at your website... It's UNBELIEVABLE! I've got some
articles that you can have to publish on it (Vrijdagavond).
Let us know!
Barry
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:48:32 -0500
From: Sam Weiss
I've been browsing Irwin's interesting Chazzanut Online site and wish that
my German (let alone my non-existent Dutch) were better, so that I could
more easily read some of the writings about the music. As I made my way
through the music transcriptions, however, I was struck by the fact that
both the Katz and Lissauer collections use the "ng" consonant to represent
the Hebrew vowel "ayin." I have always known this to be a characteristic
of Spanish-Portuguese Sephardic pronunciation, yet here it appears in a
collection of Ashkenazic music, amidst other obviously Ashkenazic
pronunciation. Is this a Dutch convention for transcribing Hebrew that
does not necessarily reflect pronunciation, or was/is this music shared by
the Sephardic community as well, prompting a hybrid transcription?
...
Related evidence of the blurring of the distinctions between
free-flowing hazzanut and metrical melody is found in Berlijn's The
Dutch Priestly Melodies. Here the interesting evidence is in written
form as well. His
"Birkat
Nesi'at Kapayim" gives the instruction "Andante, quasi recitativo,"
yet it is composed for two voices.
That the written transcription is an attempt to fit a non-metrical work
into a metrical strait-jacket is indicated by all the fermatas that it
contains. Yet the scoring for two voices indicates that the composer
heard this music with more "Western" ears than his East-European
counterpart would have.
Perhaps this also speaks to a cross-influence between the Sephardic and
Ashkenazic Dutch communities.
Cantor Sam Weiss === Jewish Community Center of Paramus, NJ
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:11:49 -0700
From: Rafael Ornes
Hello,
Wow, what a magnificent website! I will work on adding links and a
listing of your works to the CPDL database. It may take me a week or so.
I will email you when I have finished. Thank you for all of your work in
making this music available!
Best regards,
Rafael Ornes
Manager, CPDL
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:13:53 -0700
From: Benjamin Williams
Irwin;
I just reviewed your site, and quite comprehensive it is. Imagine my
surprise when under Articles my attention was caught by the description
of one about the development of Jewish liturgy, my interest was peaked,
and when I clicked on it I was at my own site! I am honored you
consider it worthy and have linked it in your site.
We are very soon going to re-do the Resources page and will definitely
add your page in the Jewish Liturgics section.
Your site has a very large assortment of important information
available.
All the best,
Ben Williams
Liturgica.com
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 20:52:23 -0500
From: Richard Locker
Dear Irwin,
What a wonderful web site! I have already downloaded some of the Rosenblatt
and Katz songs and am looking forward to studying them. The links on your
site are also excellent and will keep me busy for quite a while.
Thank you,
Richard
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 23:18:29 +0100 (CET)
From: Gaston Bogomolni
Thank you for sharing part stuff of the fantastic world of hazzanut!
This is great!
Kol Ha-kavod v' Yeshaer Kochecha!
Hag Urim Sameah,
Cantor Gastn Bogomolni
Omaha, Nebraska (USA)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:27:08 +0100 (CET)
From: J Meltzer
I came across your website today and was wondering about obtaining
information on other Chazzons (albeit not as famous as Yosselle
Rosenblatt). I refer here to someone in our family tree. Abraham
Sukoenig (original name Sukenik) immigrated to the USA from Ivnets,
Belarus. He was the Chazzon for Park Ave. Synagogue from approximately
1910 until his passing in 1936. Does anyone have any info on him?
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 22:57:09 +0100 (CET)
From: Mela Condour
Does anyone have any knowledge of a Cantor Avraham Schneider (soundex),
who lived in Vilna prior to 1932? Where can I find info on him?
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:27:56 -0500
From: Judith Pinnolis
Subject: Biographical Articles
Dear Irwin:
Another wonderful addition to your site! Thanks for offering these. Very
valuable.
Judy
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 17:46:49 -0800
From: Marilyn H Kalman
Irwin,
Mazeltov and Thank You for a wonderful site ! What riches, and how
generous you are to have this available to us all !
I was hoping that my great great zaidah, a Cantor from Rumania who went
to Montreal, would be listed, but not yet anyway. His name was Avraham
der Langer, or Abraham Lang in Montreal.
Is there any central listing of Cantors ?
Again, a hertzn dank !
Marilyn Kalman
Vancouver BC Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:00:59 EST
From: Arlene Singer
Subject: Biographies
And this too! What a wonderful source for information! Thank you so
much.
Arlene
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:47:31 +0100
From: Janet Pap
Thank you so much for the website! I have read lots of the biographies
and printed the recitatives of Rosenblatt, etc. etc. Really
interesting!
Janet Pape
Cantorial Soloist
Paris
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:37:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: Charles Vitez
For those of you who have not read these originally in Daf Hashvua, some
years ago now, I recommend them as excellent vignettes and a very enjoyable
read.
Charles Vitez
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:54:34 -0000
From: Geoffrey Shisler
Dear Chazan Oppenheim,
I am delighted that you have published my little articles on your
website. I originally thought that after they'd appeared in the Daf
Hashavua here in London that would probably be the last anyone ever
heard of them! So I'm really happy that they have been exposed to the
light of day once again.
With warm wishes and Shabbat Shalom
Geoffrey Shisler
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Rabbi Geoffrey L Shisler
London UK
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:15:35 +0000
From: Elihu Feldman
Dear Chazzan Oppenheim,
Thank you so much for establishing this internet site. We in New Jersey
used to have a chazzanut radio show sponsored from a local university.
Because the university accepted a lot of money from Arab countries or
donors they forced the station off the air.
Best of luck to you and may you be blessed for establishing this
wonderful resource.
Hazzan Elihu Feldman
Bnai Shalom Jewish Center
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:05:44 +0100 (CET)
From: kerzhner
Sholem aleykhem!
Ir makht zeyer interesanter proekt. ayt matsliekh.
Ikh vil aykh fregn - emetser veyst vegn khazn Solomon Kats fun Poyln.
Ikh hob gehert zayn oysfirung fun "Kel muley rakhamim" un "U-be-divrey
kudshekhu", un kh'ken nit gefunen protim vegn im.
A dank in foroys.
R' Naftuli
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:11:23 +0100 (CET)
From: Jeffrey Forman
Chazzan,
I love your site. The Rosenblatt collection that you digitized was
published by Metro. I have many of the collections that were published
by Metro. I am in the process of scanning them. I would like to add them
to your site. How can this be done?
Cantor Jeffrey Forman
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 23:39:09 -0800
From: Jonathan Gershater
Hi
I came across your website.
Do you have any suggested books to read in order to research
chazanut further?
Thank you
Jonathan Gershater
California, USA
Date: Fri Jul 5 2002
From: Gershon Polak
Ga zo door, Irwin! Het onderzoek wat Oppenheim junior doet is van veel
belang voor het uitstervende westerse chazzanoet. Op dit ogenblik is er
een gediplomeerde Israelische leraar/chazzan die een fonds zoekt om
"Noesach Frankfort/Main" te onderzoeken en ook te zingen. Prof. Dr. Hans
Bloemendal is een van de nog levende kenners van de Noesach van
Amsterdam en dus ook de Noesach van Frankfort.De jonge Israelische
chazzan heeft al verschillende malen dienst gedaan en heeft zijn
sjoelgangers in verrukking gebracht met de zeer romantische westerse
chazzanoet.
Ga zo door Irwin Oppenheim, het chazzanoet en z'n geschiedenis heeft je
hard nodig.
Gershon Polak
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:25:16 +0200
From: Arno Brok
Mijnheer Oppenheim,
Bij toeval ontdekte ik uw Chazzanut-pagina. Dit was een zeer
aangename ervaring.
Mijn complimenten voor de boeiende inhoud.
In bijgaand Word document vindt u enkele interessante links, waaronder
de homepages van meer (en minder) bekende Chazzanim.
Sinds enkele jaren ben verwoed ik verzamelaar van Chazzanut. (Wel een
beetje vreemd voor een Nederlandse goy). Dit vloeit voort uit mijn
interesse voor de Joodse Cultuur. Mijn cd's heb ik voornamelijk via
postorders in de USA gekocht. (Ik ben destijds begonnen met een lp van
Chazzan Hans Bloemendal) Tot voor kort had ik een groep genaamd
"Cantorial" op AudioGalaxy. Nu AG uit de lucht is,probeer ikde contacten
met mijnchazzanut-vrienden (wereldwijd) weer te herstellen. Enkelen
vanons zijn weer verenigd in the room"Jewish Music" op het
uitwisselingsprogramma SoulSeek.
Ik neem me voor om uw site regelmatig te bezoeken.
Met vriendelijke groeten,
Arno Brok
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:48:43 +0100
From: alex manassen
beste irwin,
dank voor je url. ik ben even gaan kijken en zag, dat er een
interessante hoeveelheid informatie door je is verzameld. daar moet ik
een keertje rustig de tijd voor nemen.
ik zal daar als componist vast mijn voordeel mee doen.
laat het gerust weten als er weer iets belangwekkends te melden
is.
met mijn hartelijke groeten,
alex manassen
directeur messiaen academie
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:10:55 +0200
From: Abby Israëls
Beste Irwin,
De statistiek van je website is interessant. Een combinatie van een
stijgende trend, een dag-van-de-week-patroon en uitschieters naar
aanleiding van je mailings. Of vergeet ik nog invloeden?
Ook mooi dat je de (oude) cd van het ASK erop hebt gezet.
Abby.
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:20:44 +0200 (CEST)
From: Dannie Klompsma
Shoulem,
Beste Heer Oppenheim,
Verrukt ben ik doordat ik uw site heb ontdekt! Via een Amerikaanse site
(hebrewsongs.com) kom ik hierop nota bene terecht. Ik vind het
fantastisch dat u met een dergelijk levenswerk bent begonnen.
Een aantal jaren geleden heb ik in Israel gewoond en in de yeshivah waar
ik regelmatig was, leerde ik een jongen van nederlandse ouders kennen
die in New York woonde. Hij studeerde chazanut en vroeg mij om nigunim
uit Nederland en de noesach Amsterdam en ik heb daartoe veel pogingen
ondernomen.
De positiviteit van de Chabadniks ten spijt, de "Nederlandse ritus"
verdwijnt meer en meer. Het lijkt erop dat deze voor het nageslacht
behouden blijven. Werkelijk fantastisch!!!!
Ik hoop dat u het fantastische werk blijft volhouden. In ieder geval
veel succes daarbij gewenst.
Vriendelijke groeten van
Dannie Klompsma
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:54:37 +0100 (CET)
From: Frank Levy
Beste Irwin,
Met veel genot ben ik door jouw vele bronnen gegaan. Dit is inderdaad de
manier om onze prachtige Hollandse Nusach te verspreiden en zodoende te
bewaren en anderen de mogelijkheid te geven deze te leren. Ikzelf heb
alles afgedrukt en speel al verschillende prakiem op mijn orgeltje.
Chazak weEmatz.
Frank Levy
Petach Tikwa, Israel
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:12:44 +0100
From: Max de Winter
Subject: Biographies
Bedankt voor deze link. Ziet er erg volledig en verzorgd uit. Ik zal er
zeker gebruik van maken.
Max
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